tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post4365378042417421537..comments2023-10-07T07:24:09.908-05:00Comments on From Where I Sit...: Mark Plochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-28018662912924719302009-03-25T17:10:00.000-05:002009-03-25T17:10:00.000-05:00The issue isn't getting a bonus. The issue is givi...The issue isn't getting a bonus. The issue is giving bonuses with money that was intended to bail out a business that is in trouble.<BR/><BR/>There is nothing socialist about what those tools at AIG are trying to do (nice try Mark). Their actions are all about unchecked greed. Plain and simple.<BR/><BR/>If we want to talk about Socialist's we can easily start a thread about Obama, Pelosi, Frank and Co.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-51613614509778198022009-03-25T15:16:00.000-05:002009-03-25T15:16:00.000-05:00don't forget that these Socialists are also suing ...don't forget that these Socialists are also suing the government in addition to the bonus money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-63868837684434294222009-03-25T15:10:00.000-05:002009-03-25T15:10:00.000-05:00YEAH!YEAH!Mark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-57513804775184890182009-03-25T15:06:00.000-05:002009-03-25T15:06:00.000-05:00Well this looks like a brouhaha.I think the proble...Well this looks like a brouhaha.<BR/><BR/>I think the problem here is that the communicating is not working.<BR/><BR/>We all would certainly take a bonus if given one. We're not stupid.<BR/><BR/>The problem is AIG has been given over $180bb of taxpayers money to help them correct their mess yet they are rewarding those executives who created this problem with large bonuses. It would be like giving a bus driver $10k for just crashing his bus and injuring the passengers.<BR/><BR/>Do these people deserve them? No, and they should look within themselves and return those bonuses.<BR/><BR/>Now the people who do all the grunt work like programmers, office people,etc. at AIG should not be punished unless they deserve it and reward them for their efforts.<BR/><BR/>This is about the guys running the company into oblivion and they should not be rewarded.Scott Plocharczykhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16605126122076268852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-80251547763806378022009-03-25T15:00:00.000-05:002009-03-25T15:00:00.000-05:00Nothing more socialist than offering and accepting...Nothing more socialist than offering and accepting those bonuses for poor performance.Mark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-48373264960634547022009-03-25T14:14:00.000-05:002009-03-25T14:14:00.000-05:00Pig, No.CF, No dancing here. Just standing my gro...Pig, No.<BR/><BR/>CF, No dancing here. Just standing my ground.Mark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-57953308720493681252009-03-25T14:07:00.000-05:002009-03-25T14:07:00.000-05:00Markie,Where did I ever say that what AIG did was ...Markie,<BR/><BR/>Where did I ever say that what AIG did was right? If I had my way none of those f'ed up companies would get any bailout money.<BR/><BR/>Capitalist Pig has you dancing pretty good there. Sort of reminds of your hero Comrade Obama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-44911084004779408762009-03-25T14:06:00.000-05:002009-03-25T14:06:00.000-05:00If you worked there you'd still take the money; pr...If you worked there you'd still take the money; probably even with more enthusiam because you'd feel like it's your tax dollars anyways. Might as well get some of it back. Right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-44057454182697789772009-03-25T13:49:00.000-05:002009-03-25T13:49:00.000-05:00Dear dear Pig,"Accepting bonuses from taxpayers is...Dear dear Pig,<BR/><BR/>"Accepting bonuses from taxpayers is opportunism."<BR/><BR/>I would argue it is a felony when your company is bankrupt and only continues to exist because of MY FRIGGIN' DIME!Mark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-82119428724444721782009-03-25T13:39:00.000-05:002009-03-25T13:39:00.000-05:00BTW - Accepting bonuses from taxpayers is opportun...BTW - Accepting bonuses from taxpayers is opportunism. Maybe it could be capitalism in that they're capitalizing on the situation. Does the label really matter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-39373118439285983052009-03-25T13:35:00.000-05:002009-03-25T13:35:00.000-05:00You're implying in your post that ALL AIG employee...You're implying in your post that ALL AIG employees are lazy and unethical and that they all make $250K and then say that nobody there deserve a bonus. Then you state your complete lack of understanding of how an AIG employee would even accept a bonus as if they should be morally responsible to the taxpayers. You're a hipocrit because your implying that you would be that saintly person and not take the bonus. I say that's total BS and you'd take the money...don't confuse should vs. would...should they? No. Would they? Yes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-45921148834992069172009-03-25T13:00:00.000-05:002009-03-25T13:00:00.000-05:00OK, CF. If you think that was being schooled, I n...OK, CF. If you think that was being schooled, I now can understand why you think AIG has done nothing wrong.<BR/><BR/>I guess you schooled me too.<BR/><BR/>Like, for sure, not!Mark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-67357847019984232152009-03-25T12:54:00.000-05:002009-03-25T12:54:00.000-05:00Capitalist Pig schooled Mark. Next.Capitalist Pig schooled Mark. <BR/><BR/>Next.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-32035224422054463742009-03-25T12:52:00.000-05:002009-03-25T12:52:00.000-05:00Dearest Pig,I'm more blaming the company for OFFER...Dearest Pig,<BR/><BR/>I'm more blaming the company for OFFERING ANY bonuses.<BR/><BR/>Yes, most people would take money when offered. I've never been in a situation where I couldn't use extra cash.<BR/><BR/>Every bonus I have ever received was from a company not filing for bankruptcy.<BR/><BR/>Any company accepting billions of tax payers dollars is not in the position to be handing out bonuses.<BR/><BR/>Again, my blog was to point out that a $250k employee could be replaced very cheaply and achieve the same outcome, bankruptcy.<BR/><BR/>How is it I'm a hypocrite?<BR/><BR/>BTW, The common man isn't making $250k.Mark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-47970564443150229392009-03-25T12:06:00.000-05:002009-03-25T12:06:00.000-05:00how is accepting bonuses from taxpayers capitalism...how is accepting bonuses from taxpayers capitalism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-75557692831930918262009-03-25T11:29:00.000-05:002009-03-25T11:29:00.000-05:00I would bet money on the fact that if you were a c...I would bet money on the fact that if you were a computer programmer at that company and you made a decent wage you'd want your bonus. You'd look at the rest of the world and say 'hey, this isn't my fault! I did what I was told!" You'd want it because you would have felt that the criteria on which you are judged for your bonus has only a portion to do with the overall company's market position but rather that you were a good worker with respect to the projects you were responsible for. You're lumping in the common guy with the executives. In your eyses everyone is guilty. If it were only that simple. I would also think that you would agree with the fact that in a lot of cases it's the common guy that keeps the company cogs going. With all due respect, I think you're being hipocritical. I think any who isn't an executive at any company wouldn't feel socially responsible for this mess to the point at which they felt charitable enough to give away their bonus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-32887355404972678742009-03-25T11:17:00.000-05:002009-03-25T11:17:00.000-05:00Dear Pig,What would you rather have $250,000 or no...Dear Pig,<BR/><BR/>What would you rather have $250,000 or nothing? $75,000 or $20,000?<BR/><BR/>What I was trying to point out is I'll take way less then the boneheads at AIG are getting and I'll tank the company just as well.<BR/><BR/>I've taken bonuses for work I've done. <BR/><BR/>The whole issue is how can you offer/accept a bonus when your company, in part, has brought down the world's economy? Bonuses are usually given when companies have done well. WELL. Gathering billions in bail out cash is not my definition of , WELL.<BR/><BR/>What's your definitionMark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-16170026225246459142009-03-25T10:52:00.000-05:002009-03-25T10:52:00.000-05:00Nothing like striving for complete mediocrity. Wh...Nothing like striving for complete mediocrity. When the person in the cube next to you gets a bonus and you don't because you said you didn't want it let's see how fast you put your hand out.<BR/><BR/>As I recall, somewhere else in this blog you feel that you deserve as much as anyone else. So, don't tell me you'd be simply satisfied with the package you described.<BR/><BR/>I think the cost of living is much less and the pay slightly less but I think they have this kind of job security in North Korea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-43423892355744036252009-03-24T12:14:00.000-05:002009-03-24T12:14:00.000-05:00Mark & Tara,Hire you two? Surely you jest.Mark & Tara,<BR/><BR/>Hire you two? <BR/><BR/>Surely you jest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-20357880902291797292009-03-24T07:11:00.000-05:002009-03-24T07:11:00.000-05:00Sorry Tara, you are over qualified. You admitted ...Sorry Tara, you are over qualified. You admitted you learn from your mistakes, sorry.Mark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-73275426207454044632009-03-23T20:11:00.000-05:002009-03-23T20:11:00.000-05:00They have to know the world is watching, they are ...They have to know the world is watching, they are just so greedy, they don't care. <BR/><BR/>I think they should hire you Mark. Me too, I don't have the experience but I am a quick study and I learn from my mistakes. I only require bonuses when I do a GOOD job, never been one to demand to be rewarded for a bad one.Tarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18247129498557321840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-81345403887064418482009-03-23T14:25:00.000-05:002009-03-23T14:25:00.000-05:00I just read the lawsuit story, http://www.nytimes....I just read the lawsuit story, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/20/business/20aig.html, and they really have no clue that the world is watching them. Sad.Scott Plocharczykhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16605126122076268852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-71285111895636542162009-03-23T14:02:00.000-05:002009-03-23T14:02:00.000-05:00Donald would more than likely say, "Can I have a f...Donald would more than likely say, "Can I have a few billion dollars too? My ex-wives are costing me a friggin' fortune"<BR/><BR/>HO HO HO TAA TAA HO HO HOMark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-29881303323531337022009-03-23T13:27:00.000-05:002009-03-23T13:27:00.000-05:00As The Donald would say Mark:You're fired!!!HA HA ...As The Donald would say Mark:<BR/><BR/>You're fired!!!<BR/><BR/>HA HA TEE HEE HA HAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6210735.post-42202469592088430732009-03-23T10:49:00.000-05:002009-03-23T10:49:00.000-05:00Did not see the lawsuit news. Would not surprise ...Did not see the lawsuit news. Would not surprise me at all.Mark Plochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104706825621315779noreply@blogger.com